Root-Line Alsace

Alsatian parent line

Die Elsässer Wurzeln

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The first documentary mention in Strasbourg in 1316 took place shortly after the first mention of our name in 1293 in Rostock. At a time when the new habit of giving hereditary family names to ordinary citizens was still strengthening.

It is therefore unclear whether Godike Lorbere in Rostock was a relative of Ulricus Lorber in Strasbourg or whether it is a coincidental development of the same name. A connection in spite of the great spatial distance comes into consideration because Godike was very likely a spice trader who offered exotic spices from the Mediterranean, such as "laurel", and thus a connection to the trading city of Strasbourg (in the Middle Ages one of the hubs of long-distance trade) appears.
> In the former case, the Lorbers are in Mecklenburg and Alsace two lines of the same family.
> Otherwise it would be two separate tribes.

An unsolved mystery, which is why the unusual hermaphrodite term "stem line" is used on both sides.
Unfortunately, there is little hope that this secret will ever be revealed. Not least because the city archive of Strasbourg painfully went up in flames in the Franco-Prussian War in 1870 ... and with it possible knowledge about the early days of the Alsatian Lorbers.

Progenitor

The earliest mention in Alsace in 1316 was the priest and procurer (legal scholar / lawyer) Ulricus (Ulrich) Lorber in the monastery of St. Etienne (St. Stephan) in Strasbourg (according to Alphonse Lorber: Chronicle of the village of Ebersheim, p. 251, document book of the city Strasbourg, inv. 1316 III).

Werdegang

In 1374, the Bishop of Strasbourg in Strasbourg from Brunn was elected Bishop of Bamberg and moved from Alsace to Franconia. In his wake, members of the Lorber family apparently came with him, who served him there, among other things, as a kitchen master and castle administrator. The origin of the > Franconian lines.

The remaining family (at least part of it) seems to have already come to the town of Ebersheim, about 40 kilometers southwest of Strasbourg, in the 15th or early 16th century. A place owned by the bishops of Strasbourg until 1424. This gave rise to the vigorously blooming to this day > Ebersheim line.

Outstanding biographies

  • Hainreich (Heinrich) Lorber, seine Ehefrau Suffey (Sophie) sein Sohn Chunradt (Konrad), die Töchter Elspet (Elisabeth) und Adelhait (Adelheid) werden 1379 als erste Lorber in Franken als Hauskäufer in Nürnberg erwähnt. 1385 wird dann "Heintz" mit seiner Frau Alheyd (eine neue Frau oder war eigentlich die Tochter gemeint?) in Bamberg genannt. Vermutliche Stammeltern der Fränkischen Linien.
  • Stephanus Lorber, 1518 erstmals als Stiftsherr am Thomasstift zu Straßburg genannt. Einer von wenigen Stiftsherren wollte er nicht vom katholischen zum reformierten Glauben wechseln (Knod: Die Stiftsherren von St. Thomas zu Strassburg 1518-1548). Er siedelte 1525 nach Molsheim über und war 1541 "vice prepositus monestery St. Fides in Schlettstadt", wo er eine Pfründe in der Pfarrkirche inne hatte (Gény: Stadtrechte von Schlettstadt, I). Er starb um 1550 in Schlettstadt (siehe auch Hunkler: Histoire des Saints d'Alsace, S. 644). Alphonse Lorber vermutet in seiner Ebersheimer Chronik (S. 251), dass Stephanus und die gesamte Familie Lorber österreichischer Herkunft war, gründet diesen Verdacht allerdings nur auf der Erkenntnis, dass bereits früh Lorber in der Steiermark und Kärnten nachweisbar sind. Wie wir mittlerweile wissen, allerdings nicht früher als im Elsass.
  • Brüder Walter und Claus Lorber, um 1520 die ersten in Ebersheim erwähnten Lorber. Walter hatte gar das Amt des Schultheißen inne. Stammeltern der Ebersheimer Linie.

Spread today

A very large part of the laurels (and laurels) living today can very probably be traced back to these roots in Strasbourg. In particular those already mentioned Ebersheimer and Franconia.

With some flowering branches the proof of a connection is still pending, even if it seems very likely, with the Carinthian-Styrian and the Thuringia.

Even with the Galician a connection to descendants of this parent line is suspected, albeit very speculative.

The Rastenberger According to the current state of research, the only branch that has a slightly higher probability of Mecklenburg stem line descended. So far, however, this is nothing more than an assumption that needs to be researched.

The article in the family magazine Laurus

This branch was also covered in the family magazine "Laurus" in 2014. The corresponding article can be downloaded here (PDF in German).

Do not be surprised about deviations from the above text. The article reflects the state of research from 2014. In contrast, the text on the homepage is up to date with family research.
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Sources:

  • Alphonse Lorber: The Chronicle of the Village of Ebersheim, 1963, Imprimerie Alsatia Sélestat
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